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C-R-M Other methods of discussion... CoyoteBoy 09-13-2007
Posted by CoyoteBoy on September 13, 2007, 3:49 pm
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I'd just found this group and was interested in what people had to
say, nice to find like-minded individuals, and then this sporgery went
nuts and its spoiled it. Are there any other online forums of the same
open discussion topic? Most I've come across seem to have a specific
robotics area in mind? Why do we continue to use usenet when its an
outdated and easily interrupted medium?! I'm guilty of it too, but it
does seem odd.


Posted by Si Ballenger on September 13, 2007, 7:12 pm
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:49:16 -0700, CoyoteBoy

>I'd just found this group and was interested in what people had to
>say, nice to find like-minded individuals, and then this sporgery went
>nuts and its spoiled it. Are there any other online forums of the same
>open discussion topic? Most I've come across seem to have a specific
>robotics area in mind? Why do we continue to use usenet when its an
>outdated and easily interrupted medium?! I'm guilty of it too, but it
>does seem odd.

I've been posting to usenet since 1994, and the group spam
flooding is infrequent. Most people on the net don't have a clue
as to what usenet is. Even many of the MS MVPs in the "microsoft
communities" don't know that they are using a web based usenet
interface. ;)

Posted by pogo on September 13, 2007, 9:32 pm
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> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:49:16 -0700, CoyoteBoy
>
> >I'd just found this group and was interested in what people had to
> >say, nice to find like-minded individuals, and then this sporgery went
> >nuts and its spoiled it. Are there any other online forums of the same
> >open discussion topic? Most I've come across seem to have a specific
> >robotics area in mind? Why do we continue to use usenet when its an
> >outdated and easily interrupted medium?! I'm guilty of it too, but it
> >does seem odd.
>
> I've been posting to usenet since 1994, and the group spam
> flooding is infrequent. Most people on the net don't have a clue
> as to what usenet is. Even many of the MS MVPs in the "microsoft
> communities" don't know that they are using a web based usenet
> interface. ;)

Personally, I've found that the relative non-mainstream aspect of usenet
newsgroups is nice - it reduces the likelyhood of everyone with a browser
that just learned to write a bit of code getting on here and posting all
kinds of craziness (unless you look at the metalworking newsgroup, that
is! ) The sporgery took a dedicated effort.

Anybody remember Gopher ? Wasn't that kind of like a Search Engine before
Yahoo! came to life ?

IMHO -
jcd



Posted by CoyoteBoy on September 14, 2007, 4:47 pm
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>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:49:16 -0700, CoyoteBoy
>
> > >I'd just found this group and was interested in what people had to
> > >say, nice to find like-minded individuals, and then this sporgery went
> > >nuts and its spoiled it. Are there any other online forums of the same
> > >open discussion topic? Most I've come across seem to have a specific
> > >robotics area in mind? Why do we continue to use usenet when its an
> > >outdated and easily interrupted medium?! I'm guilty of it too, but it
> > >does seem odd.
>
> > I've been posting to usenet since 1994, and the group spam
> > flooding is infrequent. Most people on the net don't have a clue
> > as to what usenet is. Even many of the MS MVPs in the "microsoft
> > communities" don't know that they are using a web based usenet
> > interface. ;)
>
> Personally, I've found that the relative non-mainstream aspect of usenet
> newsgroups is nice - it reduces the likelyhood of everyone with a browser
> that just learned to write a bit of code getting on here and posting all
> kinds of craziness (unless you look at the metalworking newsgroup, that
> is! ) The sporgery took a dedicated effort.
>
> Anybody remember Gopher ? Wasn't that kind of like a Search Engine before
> Yahoo! came to life ?
>
> IMHO -
> jcd

Fair points. I do think that usenet is a relatively poor effort at a
community though, its like everyone staying in their house and talking
over SMS instead of going to the pub and getting photos, if you catch
my drift. Maybe I'm just frustrated at the lack of people posting here
and the lack of "robotics" friends I have lol.


Posted by pogo on September 14, 2007, 7:41 pm
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> >
> >
> > > On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:49:16 -0700, CoyoteBoy
> >
> > > >I'd just found this group and was interested in what people had to
> > > >say, nice to find like-minded individuals, and then this sporgery
went
> > > >nuts and its spoiled it. Are there any other online forums of the
same
> > > >open discussion topic? Most I've come across seem to have a specific
> > > >robotics area in mind? Why do we continue to use usenet when its an
> > > >outdated and easily interrupted medium?! I'm guilty of it too, but it
> > > >does seem odd.
> >
> > > I've been posting to usenet since 1994, and the group spam
> > > flooding is infrequent. Most people on the net don't have a clue
> > > as to what usenet is. Even many of the MS MVPs in the "microsoft
> > > communities" don't know that they are using a web based usenet
> > > interface. ;)
> >
> > Personally, I've found that the relative non-mainstream aspect of usenet
> > newsgroups is nice - it reduces the likelyhood of everyone with a
browser
> > that just learned to write a bit of code getting on here and posting all
> > kinds of craziness (unless you look at the metalworking newsgroup, that
> > is! ) The sporgery took a dedicated effort.
> >
> > Anybody remember Gopher ? Wasn't that kind of like a Search Engine
before
> > Yahoo! came to life ?
> >
> > IMHO -
> > jcd
>
> Fair points. I do think that usenet is a relatively poor effort at a
> community though, its like everyone staying in their house and talking
> over SMS instead of going to the pub and getting photos, if you catch
> my drift. Maybe I'm just frustrated at the lack of people posting here
> and the lack of "robotics" friends I have lol.

Good points, as well. I completely understand. On the other hand, I have
made some very good contacts on here that I pay close attention to when they
answer my posts. Quality vs. quantity, I suppose. But then again, with more
quantity, you do have more to choose from!

Back to the issue at hand, though. Perhaps it would be best to start another
*moderated* newsgroup, and just invite everyone to move over to that one ? I
believe someone else already suggested that and also to cross-post to this
one. But even that brings up issues. For example, I would be willing to
moderate it, however, since I am also starting up a small robotics venture
myself, I would have to take extreme measures to ensure against
conflict-of-interest issues - whether real or perceived.

Anyway, who knows what "usenet" will look like in another 10 years ?

Regardless, keep posting your thoughts! It's where good ideas come from!
JCD



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