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CRM: solutions to our problem? steamer 12-05-2007
Posted by steamer on December 5, 2007, 1:23 pm
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        --There's a thread over at rec.crafts.metalworking about how to
solve the sporge problem and/or identifying the originating domain. The
thread's called 'Who did it' and there were several posters who had
responses that were a bit over my head. Mayhap some of the cleverer posters
here could implement them for us?

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Posted by Gordon McComb on December 5, 2007, 4:02 pm
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steamer wrote:
>
> --There's a thread over at rec.crafts.metalworking about how to
> solve the sporge problem and/or identifying the originating domain. The
> thread's called 'Who did it' and there were several posters who had
> responses that were a bit over my head. Mayhap some of the cleverer posters
> here could implement them for us?

Sounds good. You wouldn't have a thread title, would you? Would save me
from having to download umpteen zillion threads in my reader. Google's
interface would make it easier.

-- Gordon

Posted by Wayne C. Gramlich on December 5, 2007, 5:00 pm
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Gordon McComb wrote:
> steamer wrote:
>> --There's a thread over at rec.crafts.metalworking about how to
>> solve the sporge problem and/or identifying the originating domain. The
>> thread's called 'Who did it' and there were several posters who had
>> responses that were a bit over my head. Mayhap some of the cleverer posters
>> here could implement them for us?
>
> Sounds good. You wouldn't have a thread title, would you? Would save me
> from having to download umpteen zillion threads in my reader. Google's
> interface would make it easier.

Gordon:

As the original post said, the thread is identified as "Who did it".
The post of interest is from Steve Ackman:

> In slrn:
>
> 1) Hit the letter 'k'
> 2) Hit the letter 'e'
> 3) type "NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.35.108.103"
> 4) They all disappear

which is pretty cryptic. There is a follow up post from
William Noble:

> ok, I had to look it up - slrn is here http://www.slrn.org/ from reading,
> it looks like no one is maintaining the probram - the "last check" column is
> 2004 for most things, though the mac OS is 2006

The DoN. Nichols Post is a little more informative:

>         Weren't all of these posted with the same "NNTP-Posting-Host: "
> IP? That should be an easy way to zap them all -- as long as your
> newsreader allows killfiling on that header.

In summary, you need a news reader that has "kill file" support
and the ability to select an arbitrary header. For the last
sporge on rec.crafts.metalworking, the header to kill file is:
"NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.35.108.103".

For my particular newsreader (Thunderbird), I've never been
able to get a permanent killfile to work. I sort of doubt
that Thunderbird has arbitrary header filtering (I could be
wrong; I've done no research on the topic.) Maybe somebody who
knows more can illuminate my admitted ignorance on this topic.

-Wayne

Posted by Brendan Gillatt on December 5, 2007, 5:30 pm
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Wayne C. Gramlich wrote:
> In summary, you need a news reader that has "kill file" support
> and the ability to select an arbitrary header. For the last
> sporge on rec.crafts.metalworking, the header to kill file is:
> "NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.35.108.103".

They appear to be from a lot more places than one IP! Perhaps the lucky
person who posted the thread already had spam filtering put on by his/her
isp.

> For my particular newsreader (Thunderbird), I've never been
> able to get a permanent killfile to work. I sort of doubt
> that Thunderbird has arbitrary header filtering (I could be
> wrong; I've done no research on the topic.) Maybe somebody who
> knows more can illuminate my admitted ignorance on this topic.

I'm in the same boat as you! Can only filter by Subject, Date and From
headers O-o. Strange because you can filter E-mail with whatever you like!

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Brendan Gillatt
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Posted by Rich Webb on December 6, 2007, 9:19 am
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Brendan Gillatt wrote:
[snip...snip...]

> I'm in the same boat as you! Can only filter by Subject, Date and From
> headers O-o. Strange because you can filter E-mail with whatever you like!

When a news client retrieves the headers, all it will typically get are
Path, From, Newsgroups, Subject, Date, Organization, and Message-ID.
Filtering on the body as well as on the other header lines is possible
but that would require downloading the complete feed for the group.

Nowadays, with broadband more available, that's not impossible, although
I'm not aware of any common clients that implement it.

The Path header line is probably a good candidate for sporge filtering;
just need to find a client that supports it -- or grab the Thunderbird
SVN snapshot and add it. ;-)

--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA

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