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Posted by cadcoke4 on September 12, 2008, 12:58 am
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I just saw a freaky video.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/09/080910-robots-video-ap.html
It featured some robots with extensive effort to mimic the human face,
including one that looks like a medical manikin, showing the muscles
of the face.
They talked of a future where robots could express their emotions, and
people would interact emotionally with the robots. However, I suspect
that the opposite would occur.
People know robots don't really have emotion. And while people may
pretend to treat an object as though it were alive, they know it's
pretend. Where the danger lays, is if people get used to ignoring
these emotional signals coming from robots, and start to ignore them
in real people.
To a limited extent, this happens on the internet. We are used to
getting text responses to queries from a computer. This makes it easy
to start to view usenet as simply a source of information, and forget
that a real person is typing the responses.
Joe Dunfee
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Posted by Curt Welch on September 12, 2008, 1:59 am
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> I just saw a freaky video.
> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/09/080910-robots-video-ap.ht
> ml It featured some robots with extensive effort to mimic the human face,
> including one that looks like a medical manikin, showing the muscles
> of the face.
>
> They talked of a future where robots could express their emotions, and
> people would interact emotionally with the robots. However, I suspect
> that the opposite would occur.
>
> People know robots don't really have emotion. And while people may
> pretend to treat an object as though it were alive, they know it's
> pretend. Where the danger lays, is if people get used to ignoring
> these emotional signals coming from robots, and start to ignore them
> in real people.
>
> To a limited extent, this happens on the internet. We are used to
> getting text responses to queries from a computer. This makes it easy
> to start to view usenet as simply a source of information, and forget
> that a real person is typing the responses.
>
> Joe Dunfee
I think those are good points assuming you are talking about robots which
were built simply in an attempt to mimic human emotions by mimicking human
facial motions.
What I will disagree with however is the idea that computers don't have
emotions. We will soon be building truly emotional and conscious robots
and when that happens, odd things will develop connected with the ideas you
express above. We aren't mimicking human emotions, the machines will be
truly emotional. (they already are to some extent but it's so far from
human emotions we can just say they don't and be close enough to the
truth).
Right now, humans feel a very real and close connections to other humans
which we don't feel to the machines (for the most part). As you say,
(except on Usenet :)) we treat other humans with a level of respect we
never extend to the machines we deal with.
But what happens when all the web sites and vending machines and video
games and cars and homes we deal with start being real AIs with emotions
and feelings? Will it humanize the machines causing us to show them more
respect and car, or will it dehumanize people for us allowing us to be mean
and even violent to other humans without a second thought?
What will happen when you spend hours in a video game killing AIs that are
actually real intelligent and emotional agents when you then go out and
interact with real intelligent and emotional humans?
I have no clue where this is going to lead society but it should be
interesting.
--
Curt Welch http://CurtWelch.Com/
curt@kcwc.com http://NewsReader.Com/
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> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/09/080910-robots-video-ap.ht
> ml It featured some robots with extensive effort to mimic the human face,
> including one that looks like a medical manikin, showing the muscles
> of the face.
>
> They talked of a future where robots could express their emotions, and
> people would interact emotionally with the robots. However, I suspect
> that the opposite would occur.
>
> People know robots don't really have emotion. And while people may
> pretend to treat an object as though it were alive, they know it's
> pretend. Where the danger lays, is if people get used to ignoring
> these emotional signals coming from robots, and start to ignore them
> in real people.
>
> To a limited extent, this happens on the internet. We are used to
> getting text responses to queries from a computer. This makes it easy
> to start to view usenet as simply a source of information, and forget
> that a real person is typing the responses.
>
> Joe Dunfee