Using linear actuators on a robot arm

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Using linear actuators on a robot arm slow_mac_modem 07-30-2006
Posted by on July 30, 2006, 8:58 pm
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How about using linear actuators to drive a robot arm instead of
stepper motors or servos? The big 340+ oz/inch servos cost a fortune
and are incapable of lifting a measly five pounds with an 18 inch arm
length.

12V actuators are down to $59 on feeBay and that's less than the price
of the large servos.

Of course an actuator would weigh a lot more than a servo but so what -
they lift 300 pounds. Heck, you could jack up your car with it.

Caveats I see is actuators are a lot slower and eat current. Full
extension on an actuator is maybe 45 secs and they can draw 5 amps but
I suspect that lighter loads would not consume so much.

Any thoughts on this infallible idea?

Pokey.


Posted by Robert Davidson on July 30, 2006, 10:51 pm
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I see your idea for this. The only problem would be getting the actuator to
send some feed back like in a servo. Then the controler could judge the
distance the actuator has extended. Another great idea would be to get some
feed back on current draw as well then the controler could judge the weight
or load on the actuator. At the very least you could put in some bump/stop
switches to tell if the actuator has fully extended or fully retracted.
Anybody else putting more thought into this...


> How about using linear actuators to drive a robot arm instead of
> stepper motors or servos? The big 340+ oz/inch servos cost a fortune
> and are incapable of lifting a measly five pounds with an 18 inch arm
> length.
>
> 12V actuators are down to $59 on feeBay and that's less than the price
> of the large servos.
>
> Of course an actuator would weigh a lot more than a servo but so what -
> they lift 300 pounds. Heck, you could jack up your car with it.
>
> Caveats I see is actuators are a lot slower and eat current. Full
> extension on an actuator is maybe 45 secs and they can draw 5 amps but
> I suspect that lighter loads would not consume so much.
>
> Any thoughts on this infallible idea?
>
> Pokey.
>



Posted by Robert Davidson on July 30, 2006, 10:59 pm
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I know I just posted, but here's something I found right away. Take a look.

http://www.tritonlinear.com/tritoncomspecificationsenglish.htm

Seems to be just what your looking for.


> How about using linear actuators to drive a robot arm instead of
> stepper motors or servos? The big 340+ oz/inch servos cost a fortune
> and are incapable of lifting a measly five pounds with an 18 inch arm
> length.
>
> 12V actuators are down to $59 on feeBay and that's less than the price
> of the large servos.
>
> Of course an actuator would weigh a lot more than a servo but so what -
> they lift 300 pounds. Heck, you could jack up your car with it.
>
> Caveats I see is actuators are a lot slower and eat current. Full
> extension on an actuator is maybe 45 secs and they can draw 5 amps but
> I suspect that lighter loads would not consume so much.
>
> Any thoughts on this infallible idea?
>
> Pokey.
>



Posted by Robert Davidson on July 30, 2006, 11:26 pm
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Here's something a little more RC/Robot friendly...

http://www.emsjomar.com/linear.aspx

Good Luck.


> How about using linear actuators to drive a robot arm instead of
> stepper motors or servos? The big 340+ oz/inch servos cost a fortune
> and are incapable of lifting a measly five pounds with an 18 inch arm
> length.
>
> 12V actuators are down to $59 on feeBay and that's less than the price
> of the large servos.
>
> Of course an actuator would weigh a lot more than a servo but so what -
> they lift 300 pounds. Heck, you could jack up your car with it.
>
> Caveats I see is actuators are a lot slower and eat current. Full
> extension on an actuator is maybe 45 secs and they can draw 5 amps but
> I suspect that lighter loads would not consume so much.
>
> Any thoughts on this infallible idea?
>
> Pokey.
>



Posted by Curt Welch on July 31, 2006, 2:10 am
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slow_mac_modem@yahoo.com wrote:
> How about using linear actuators to drive a robot arm instead of
> stepper motors or servos? The big 340+ oz/inch servos cost a fortune
> and are incapable of lifting a measly five pounds with an 18 inch arm
> length.
>
> 12V actuators are down to $59 on feeBay and that's less than the price
> of the large servos.
>
> Of course an actuator would weigh a lot more than a servo but so what -
> they lift 300 pounds. Heck, you could jack up your car with it.
>
> Caveats I see is actuators are a lot slower and eat current. Full
> extension on an actuator is maybe 45 secs and they can draw 5 amps but
> I suspect that lighter loads would not consume so much.
>
> Any thoughts on this infallible idea?
>
> Pokey.

Aren't the devices you are talking about nothing more than a screw-drive
system driven by a motor with a forward/reverse switch? It gets the power
simply by using gears and sacrificing speed for force. If the parameters
are what you are looking for, then it should work fine. But as others have
said, you'll probably want to add position feedback (simplest case just
limit switches). There are plenty of options of building your own system
of gears and or levers with standard motors as well to get whatever
leverage you need - including a screw drive - or pulleys and cables for
example.

I think you don't tend to find those types of linear actuators in robots as
much because they tend to be too slow for many applications. But if high
force and low speed works for you I think they would be a fine option.

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